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Wes Bos

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Full Stack JavaScript Developer. Creator of really good web development courses. BBQ enthusiast.

Scott Tolinski

Scott Tolinski

Web Developer, Creator of Level Up Tuts, Bboy, Robotops Crew and Youtuber

Playing: 243: Hasty Treat - Getting Buy-in for a Tool Like Prettier From Your Team

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Apr 27th, 2020

Hasty Treat - Getting Buy-in for a Tool Like Prettier From Your Team

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In this Hasty Treat, Scott and Wes talk about getting buy-in from your team when using new tools.

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Show Notes

02:53 - Q: "I wrote a long message to our architect asking if I could install prettier into our component generator for new projects moving forward, and the response I got was: "Don't auto-format, not all devs want that and prettier doesn't always format the way I like, I don't want to enforce that on devs."

This sucks because I know the codebase would benefit so much. Right now every time I visit a project so much of the code is not spaced out that it makes it hard to read quickly for me, lots of the React code is bunched up with no spacing - it's a mess to read for me especially because I am very organized. If this was your situation where you know a new tool/standard is something that can help a lot but it's shot down, do you just give up? I don't know how to respond to this because I am the only dev who has ever proposed this at my company and I just started here.

05:03 - Lots to unpack here

  1. Some senior devs don't like getting suggestions from other devs. There is a sense that these things change quickly and I bet there is some anxiety over that at play here.
  2. Senior devs know better than to slap new tools into the codebase because they have probably done it and regretted it. What if it broke your code.

08:20 - So what can you do?

  1. Ask for their thoughts on a tool instead of suggesting it - it seems you have done this already
  2. Show the dev that even though it looks weird, it's better for readability.
  3. Look at existing guidelines and try to match the settings as close as possible (not always an option with prettier).
  4. Put together a solid argument for it, written down.
  5. Use it in a smaller project. Everyone is against prettier at first, but once they use it, they realize how amazing it is.
  6. Can you just Prettier the code yourself and then format it otherwise before you check it in? This depends on if you have existing formats.

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